First of all, I wanted to expand on what Helmut shared earlier, that this has been a continuum of activities. As you can see in the first red box, it's all the four country studies that will be presented, step by step, all through the day. We selected the community grantees. The grantees were invited to workshops to meet with the other grantee from the country to develop their ideas about public health, about media and information literacy, and so on. Then they worked, that's a green box, and that's what I'll talk about in a moment they worked on you worked on all of you most of you here on your programs turning your initial idea real this has all been condensed into an online learning resource so that many more than the eight stations all stations in europe or in the world in principle can also build their own public health programs. And finally, the last point which you may not be able to see is the conference where we are today, culminating effort for all of these activities. So the programs, the objective of this package was together that all the stations would create a broad sequence of effective programs on public health for social norms change within the eight communities. saying about the importance of media and information literacy and what community radio can do and what June afterwards from WHO was stressing that community radio actually is very well placed to do all of this. February 20th last year we sent out the call. You could reply by March 31st. April 20th, the lucky stations that are here were informed that they would get a production grant, access to the workshop, participation in this conference and ongoing exchanges, as many of us have had with me as the project manager for that part of the work. We've spent a lot of exchanges and time together. October 15th was a deadline for the programs. At the end of October, you sent your reports. And all of this is available in quite detailed documents that are available online. You will have received them, others can receive them, so there's no reason to go into more depth around this and we are here today. The eight lucky winners were from Austria, the campus and city radio Semperton and it was Freirath and from Innsbruck, who are here and will talk a little bit later. From Denmark, it was Radio Bazaar and Radio Ronde, as Yvonne has already introduced, as Denmark will be presenting first. From Ireland, it was Clara Morris Community Radio. Radio and from Spain we had Onda Color from Malaga, Radio Habato from Coslada near Madrid and Radiopolis from Seville. So that big country was quite well represented. By looking at the dates, can you see them? It's just my screen that is full of other things. You can see that the different workshops took place at different dates, because it was very important for us that the processes were adapted to the realities in the countries. In Denmark, as you will hear in a moment, there was not a lot of tradition of using public health programs. So the workshop took place as the very first thing to inspire. And similarly, the other countries followed when and where it was possible and desirable in the production process to have this meetup of radios and experts. I'll quickly run through the winning stations from the countries. In Austria, Radio Freirad chose to focus on the neglect of the health system to focus on women's health. You will hear a lot more about that. And the other Austrian station, Campus and City Radio St. Perlton looked at the challenges of the digitized parts of the health system and what that does to people and what could be done to alleviate that. In Denmark radio Ronde decided to pick up an old idea that worked with for many many years ago on engaging community members in doing programs about the situation they were to pick up an old idea that worked with for many many years ago on engaging community members in doing programs about the situation they were in so that they become became the producers instead of just the recipients and radio bazaar focused as Yvonne just said on the immigrant nationalities in which the station is embedded in that particular part of Aarhus, the second biggest town in Denmark. In Ireland, Claudio Mori's community radio focused on healthy conversations, choosing, as I said, a participatory style, as I said, a participatory style, a friendly sitting together chatting about better living and tailoring the programs to the specific health topics and needs of the different audiences. Coming to Spain, we had three stations winning the access to the grants and the processes under color from Malaga they wanted to show that it's important to be attentive and act when something hurts there's a saying in Spain saying see no sana hoy if it doesn't heal today, well, then it will heal later. And the core point in the program series was, well, it may not. You better look at it and do something. So their approach was a how-to on many different health issues that they had identified in their reality. Radio Rabato near Madrid invited everybody into the studio saying, everybody's health is everybody's commitment and they focused on public health challenges of the different groups that identified in the community and in the report you can read how the communities were excited about realizing programs about the in the challenges they had informed the station about having. The last Spanish station is from Seville, it's Radiopolis. They focused on mental health because they had identified mental health as a growing problem among youth. So they identified the young man you can see here, Luis Alberto Perez Hidalgo, who was a psychologist. He was the lead person in all the programs addressing the many different types of mental challenges that youth can have on all the different issues. I think this is what I want to say about the production phase. It has been an intense phase, and as the stations have said, actually meeting the deadlines was not always so easy, but I want to thank you very much for playing with us. We were able to deliver our reports to the EU, and we were able to follow you and to see the fantastic results that you have been generating they are as i said available in these two programs the left hand document is very detailed it's all of your long reports links to your programs and so on and the right one or center one is one just with a small blurb about each station and links to all your programs. So you can find that on the net. Bridge. So this is the framework that all of you who are here today have worked within. Before we invite Radio Ronde to come up, I want to give just a few highlights from the research that we carried. Before giving the word to Radio Runde and to Hasse, I want to give just a few highlights from the research that we did, I did in Denmark, like we will for the presentation of the other nations, the other four countries. First of all, what I, just like the other three researchers in the four countries all together, looked into was, what is public health all about in Denmark? And the Danish study, the core findings there were that there is a rising polarization in our society in the area of public health literacy. between in the area of public health literacy. There is an incredible, and this was what all the experts I talked with on the area said, there's a huge need for a social norms change approach where communication may be combined with legislation. And, and I'm cutting a lot of details you can read in the report yourselves afterwards, they wanted to, exactly as June was saying, to see the health challenges as part of, and the people with the health challenges, as a part of the solution, instead of, as we are used to treating public health, smoking, drinking, all of these things, as a part of the problem. And the experts consulted in Denmark, because we haven't had a lot of that, they were saying, wow, community radio, that would be an extraordinarily good idea, why haven't we done more about that? So that's what we did. The Danish community media landscape looks as you can see. Community radio in Denmark started in 1983. It was typically for Denmark, not the activists, but a state initiated period of experiments for three years. The period was made permanent three years later, TV was included and so on. So it took its natural course. You can have a license. You're invited to seek licenses twice a year through the state radio and TV authority. It's very unbureaucratic, very simple. Most people can with a few promises. I will not go into detail. You can read about that. September 22 last year, when we did the research, there were 140 community radio stations in Denmark and 38 TV stations and, as you can see, the community radio in Denmark, just like most other places, is concentrated around the bigger towns, 150 in the larger Copenhagen area, and 49 around the second biggest town, Aarhus in Jylland, where the two grantees actually both come from, coincidentally. Just like my two speakers before me from UNESCO and WHO, speakers before me from UNESCO and WHO, we also identified in our study that after COVID, it was clearer than ever that trust is a key determinant of health. Without trust, it's very difficult to do something about public health issues. And Denmark is trusting people. Danes are. I was really surprised when I did this research myself. 88% of Danes trust government, not being corrupt. 90% Danes trust the health authorities. 80% plus trust the National Public Service broadcaster. So when I called around to the Danish stations, they said, well, the public service broadcaster has huge resources. They do excellent programs. People believe in them. So why should we, with volunteer broadcasters, spend a lot of time on something that they do better? Still, community media did carry health information, public service announcements and portraits of people who had been ill and so on. In our E3J workshop in Denmark, referring to this, there were a few aha moments, realizations among the participating stations from Ronde and from Radio Bazaar in Aarhus, that community media can have exactly this social norms change potential that we identified in the research was actually missing. That breaking the silence is important to meet public health challenges and engaging citizens in production, as I said, being part of the solution and not just the problem. And all of this you can read with much more detail in this report that we have brought out so with this it's my great honor and pleasure to as Yvonne was saying give the word to Hazza and Nils from Radio Ronde thank you for having us and thank you also for Sophia for bringing us here. We will thank you for that. We are in the midst of a learning process and what I will go through with these PowerPoints is what I'm going to say and this was be standing over there He's the general manager of radio station, so he will Thank you. Thank you has it's all about relationships Maybe I should say a little about the station before you tell about the project. Tell us where we are in Denmark. This is a picture of Denmark. Tell us please where we are. Yes, Radio Rønde is situated in Jotland. As you can see, the nose of Jotland is called. We have two municipalities, coverage rich area, north and south Djursland. It's about 80,000 inhabitants in this area. So this is where we focus our programmes. We make 42 hours of broadcasting every week. We have 20 volunteers working at the station. So that's basically it. I think we were founded in 1987 after the experimental periods in Denmark. So we have been there for many years, but never made any real programs about public health. So Hazze, tell us what we did. This brings us to the workshop that we were attending, where we learned a lot. We found out that in our application for the program, we were having too much emphasis on physical pathologies, medical practices and going with the WHO we thought we'll turn this into mental health, social crisis, even climate crisis will be part of everyday disturbances and we also of course discussed inequality social and gender and we found out most basically during these days in our team that we have been when we have been doing this we were too much preoccupied with prevention and treatment instead of saying well let's do all the wrong doings that people can do that that people are experts in their own life they know what's what's wrong and what they can do with that so we when we after this workshop we oh um we thought well let's have a development program let's try to say if we could be agents in our local society for for changes in in the in the in the in the you you said trust but never limit objectives are that citizens are experts in their own lives and given a space and language they themselves have ideas how to solve problems. Healthcare experts, and we have a lot of those, and we trust them of course, but I think they could improve their social intelligence by listening to the audience. So shaping conversations on capacity and relations will create more successful local public health system we thought so we discussed it with our municipality and Came up with some ideas The principles for our thematic radio program programs will be that we want to inform this is This is what we normally do we will inform listeners and citizens about things going on but we will also develop everybody's who is involved with this radio program their competences to act on their own health or even on what is going on in society we will change everybody who is involved their understanding of the issue, we will change everybody's understanding on this by bringing people together. And we will anchor, if there are any bidders and offers in our local society, we will anchor it or we will develop it. This is the main goal of what we are doing now. So, okay, I'll keep on I've been involved in the in family yeah so what we would like to do when we were designing programs we would say well let's have the journalistic host opening discussions with people in different circles. A circle in the center of conversations will be citizens. Citizens who have problems or citizens who are engaged, whatever. And the second circle will be the staff, the experts, the one we trust, they will bring in. And the third circles will be politicians and decision makers in the local society who give up money, who say in the communities, well, we'll support this and that. And the fourth circle would be, could be, significant national expert on the theme. So we will try to decide, look, we can do this. Next. But the principles of how to do programs would be, we would come up with ideas with Sødjurs local radio, municipality, health coordinator. We have a wonderful coordinator in our municipality very clever woman and we would develop things with the editorial team this is Nielsen and I and Jette and the journalistic host and participants coming in what how can we do this program and completion would be us and the video documentation would be us and the evaluation will be us and then sometimes we will follow up a program on a specific theme by having a portrait of something in someone important or a theme look this is we would have to we would we would like to have a daily room environment for slow conversations. As far, this is the pictures of what we are seeing when we have this radio program. We had one on men's issues, like Jun said, men stuck in their problems, having conversations. And on the on the on. Come on, man, is a project going on in our municipality. And we put in two persons from from this group of men. One of them is an instructor. And then on your left side, you see the person from municipality who is anchoring this in the municipality and on the right side you have the politicians who is the chair of the health we value in a committee in in our so so we bring these people in and this, of course, you can't see the circles, but it's very important that these people are into discussions on, is this a project which is very important and how can it be developed? And the other one is on loneliness. And you have our local young bi-major from young people uh talking about loneliness and we have all on the other side the elderly council uh person saying something about uh loneliness on on older people So lonely. And then of course an expert and also the new... Well, and me. This is the circle. You can't see the circles but they're there. The future, the way forward, of course we are now, we have had a few programs and we are now trying to evaluate how we can improve those and in February we will have a meeting in our municipality with people bringing in trying to get new people into the editorial team and new hosts and also find out what could be the next theme we were discussing maybe alcohol but you know what the moment the main point from from mr. the two very important persons here Alton and June said very important things we will write that down and we will do what they say yeah that's basically that's basically it I think it took 8 minutes. Radio Bazaar is part, together with Migrant TV, two stations from Oros Global Media, which is the only ethnic minority media group supported by the Ministry of Culture in Denmark. They are also supported by the Ministry of Culture in Denmark. We have good laws in Denmark somehow. So in that sense, don't have definitely a program who is running on public health all the time but we have been doing something through the years. For instance when municipality wants to establish a public health center in the so-called ghetto area, they contact us and we make divulgations through TV and radio in four different languages. It became a success because minorities visited. That was the aim. So later, for instance, in the Corona time, we also make through the radio and TV and of course then Facebook, we make divulgations what to do in six different languages. So it's not something that we have always but we act when it's necessary and when it simply always come to us when they have something to solve so we go and solve it because we are very inside the ethnic minority groups and they trust us and so on and so on so that is the the main thing and and being at the same time a radio station and also a sister TV station, it makes us very strong because we can then function with the three medias, the social media and TV and radio. So we can divulgate things with big impact. So that's the big difference from our small brothers from Rwanda, you know. So with big respect, with big respect for them. Nothing that. We are good friends. So that's the big difference from our small brothers from Rwanda, you know. With big respect, with big respect for them. Nothing that. We are good friends, we are good friends. Don't worry. So in that, I don't want to say very much because then you can ask much more about, but I will give the word to my colleague, Chi Wang, who was making the research and the interviews for these two programs which we did. Go, Edgy. Thank you. Thank you. As we have just introduced, because things, the Radio Bazaar is a radio station by and for the ethnic minorities in the area. And therefore, when we think about the issue of public health, we think immediately ethnic minorities, public health. And in that sense, health does not nearly mean And in that sense, health does not merely mean being a patient, being treated by your doctor, but it means identity, subjectivity, and it means your ability to navigate in the Danish health system, and it means to take action actively and participation in the entire public health debate and in the transforming of the Danish healthcare system. And in essence, I did some research and think about what can we do as a radio station? And the only thing we can do, I think, is to provide, to find the information and provide the information and spread information to the large community of ethnic minorities, communities. And that's why I accidentally found a person called Charlotte. Do you have, and she's a professor at the Aarhus University Hospital, and she also working at a clinic called clinic of cross-cultural medicine in our region and actually I did quite a lot of research and found out that actually in the capital area in Denmark, they had already a clinic called immigrant clinic. And then in the island in the middle of Shetland and Jutland, they had also a clinic called immigrant clinic. And I was thinking, what about in our region? Do we have something like that? And it took me quite a while to find out what exactly where we have that or whether we have that or not and finally i found this person and i think oh she's working in the cross-cultural clinic was it something like the immigrant uh clinic at all and then i just called her and we have discussion and it shows now that this cross-culture clinic is something in our region which is, you know, like the two other immigrant clinics. And then in the discussion in the interview, it's kind of an interview, and I just let her to tell about this clinic, when it was established and how it was established and what was the process and what being an immigrant, how can you come into that clinic and being treated and what was the process and the entire progress thing. And I think those information are extremely important for the immigrant to know, because then you would have the possibility to discuss that possibility with your physicians. And one other thing I think is interesting that this clinic, they have the capacity to treat a patient a year, and they use life story approach as a treatment. And that means that you're not just a patient, so I have a pain care, give me some painkiller. You're sitting down to starting with two hours of conversation with the nurse, with the interpreter, and there's a language barrier when about there, right? And then in these two hours, you are allowed to tell your personal history, your family's story, where do you come from, what was important for you, and how's your family and what you have been experiencing in your life. And they take all this life story as a larger sort of background information, and they put your sickness in the context of that. And that's quite a measure. And also, Charlotte tell me that the patients, when they begin to tell their story, they sort of, you know, you can see the personality come from, and they become sort of like that, oh, finally somebody listened to me. My history, my story counts, right? So that's very important. And of course, I mean, this is, my story counts, right? So that's very important. And of course, I mean, this is one of the program I made. And then the other one is they are a young... Syria. Yeah, refugee from Syria. And he was educated as a pharmacist in Syria. And once he come to Denmark and he started educating himself in Danish system and finally become a pharmacist in the tiny pharmacy shop in Ebeltoft. And this guy started working there and in the process of working there, and the owner of the pharmacy shop can see that sometimes some people call in and ask some information, but they do not speak very perfect Danish. And sometimes they don't understand, sometimes they have very difficulty to explain what these drugs mean. And sometimes people ask, well, I used to take this medicine in my country. Is this Danish medicine like that or what? And then they discuss that up. And finally they say that, why don't we put up two hours a week and to open a sort of Facebook and then people can write and call in and then to take care of this particular group of immigrants who do not really speak perfect Danish yet. And then they just started gradually like that. And then they can see as many people began to come in and join the Facebook, ask questions, and they will answer the questions, you know, what does medicine do for you and how do you use that, right? And things like that. So gradually the Facebook grow and they have several thousand followers. And now this guy starting another Facebook group with this kind of volunteer and helping people with other health issues other issues of these authorities and with interpreters uh things like that but it's just a case to show to to to to show that uh when the immigrant he himself was an immigrant and he has to take sort of action and he has to take sort of action and to transform the traditional pharmacy system and to provide this platform for the minority groups to use. And you can see when the users began to grow, and that's also a sign showing that the users are talking to each other, to talk, say, we have this Facebook, right? So it's just spread and people find out the facebook is in arabic in arabic and it's not only for the for the immigrants in our area it's actually open for whole denmark so people living in denmark anywhere who speak arabic can just you know join this facebook and ask for information and learn how to navigate in the Danish pharmacy system. And I think that is indeed a, actually is agency is empowerment and it's really people taking on actions and turn the health issues into an issue of their own. Thank you. I'm pretty sure some of you do have some questions, right? OK, I'm coming into mine. OK, oh, right back there. Hi, I just wanted to ask um you were talking um that you take a specific care of ethnic minority groups could you name them just just to give us a an idea we have many so you have time you were talking about six major now the language we lose the language arabic and Somali and of course we use also Danish and then I don't remember all of them Iran probably and Somalia said probably in French because there's African people who speak French and so on so I don't remember all the language it's many years ago so okay any other questions hi thank you very Yes. Turkey, of course. Any other questions? Hi. Thank you very much for this presentation. For me, we heard in the beginning that Denmark has a Danish people have a lot of confidence in their government. But from Germany, we don't have this this we don't want our data out there we don't want the government to know as much how have you seen especially in our whose people being reluctant to go into contact with the municipality and stuff like that so to get out their health data, talk about it on radio station? Well about minorities I can't speak because it's my area of work. No because municipally we have through the years connected minorities with municipality you know, so they have a relation nowadays, we just act when it's necessary to do something extra, you know, to advertise something which is important so we can achieve all the ethnic minorities or something. But we have developed things with the years where people themselves can go to municipally and take care about what they want. Can I add a few comments on this trust business? I worked with alcohol dependency for years and as you all know state governments and municipalities will offer you some assistance but most of the alcoholics that I know don't want that kind of treatment, but what can they do? And do they have someone like other organizations to press for better alcohol problem solving? Or even the things that we have been discussing about, come on man, loneliness, whatever. So maybe we trust the offers, the bidders, but they could be improved. It's all about thinking of sociological pathologies, which means society has a responsibility. And what can we do if we, I mean, I was into alcohol treatment 35 years ago. And if they had had other offers during my lifetime, I would certainly have been there when I was 20. So this is, of course, something you see. Of course, we can trust the government. We can trust the offers, the bidders, what they can do. But in the end, I think that if you look in deeply, think about the persons who have these troubles, or is it a problem for you, you will find that there are a lot of things that you can improve. This is what we are trying to do now. And I think the same goes for everyone, gender issues, inequality issues, and even.. And I think that the community-made role is also to improve these things in society. So it's what we do together with municipality and all other institutions. That's important that we think that we municipalities and all other institutions that's important, that we think that we are working all together for the same thing, that everybody gets it better. And did you reach these missing 10 or 20 percent? That's a very difficult analysis, nobody does such analysis. So I cannot answer it. When we went from our workshop, we sat down in our editorial group and with others. And then I thought, well, we are clever now. And we contacted our municipality, and even the municipality of North Sytjurs, the coordinator, and I started to say what I've just said, well, well, well, well, you can improve your offering, I said, yeah, we agree, totally agree. I do agree because she was, of course, a trained expert so she was also a little bit miss but well they had a were not satisfied with what she was doing in her daily life so of course she would want to have a community saying could we improve this this is why we say could our radio station, as little as it is, could that be a local agent for changes in society, not just giving information about what they are doing? Thank you. Any more questions? I've read on one of the first slides that you've got 140 community radio stations in Denmark. We've got 14 in Austria. So I wondered, do they all have a terrestrial frequency or are some of them web-radius? And what is the technical range? I can tell you that because I'm the president of the Danish Federation of Community Media in Denmark. Congratulations! So they are divided into eight regions and then in these regions you have different radii. Of course we have a little bit more in Copenhagen Copenhagen is bigger than the rest but a part of that they are all over Denmark this one of the 40 community radius the 30 34 TV stations they're also divided in eight areas and by each area normally is around five stations to less in one region or something like that. But so they are all divided in all over Denmark and for that Minister of Culture has 50 millions to support this community medium. Danish Krona of course, not Eros, no, not Eros, no my goodness. But how many, sorry, how many listeners can you reach with one station? So for example in Austria we've got one community station in Vienna, one in Graz, in the biggest city. When you live in a city you can hear just one community radio station. So if you've got 140, what about the frequency? But you cannot listen, for instance, you cannot listen to Radio Bazaar in Copenhagen. Of course not. So it's only in our area in Jutland that you can listen to us in East Jutland. Not whole Jutland, but East Jutland. So it's in small regions that they are. I mean, you can go to the Ministry of Culture page in Denmark and see all these. This is their point out, and you understand it better because it would take me a long time to explain. And several stations share a frequency, so there's several stations on the same frequency. Okay, thank you, Anna. Any more questions? Okay, because I got one for you. I was just wondering, because you were talking about health topics that you touched upon like for example in the series come on men right that are kind of taboo and stigmatized also when you're thinking about you know touching on alcoholism in the future right what was the feedback like from the participants or from your you know just from people listening to your programs or participating? Was there any feedback? How was it received, touching on taboo topics? Our programs are also brought by broadcast. We know that a lot of people have listened to the broadcast afterwards, but we do not have at the moment feedback from listeners, except if we are known in community. About taboos, the other issue we were talking about is loneliness. We started to say, well, is that a topic we could argue on? And of course, these things are, people could be stigmatized, as you said, as their part, but they're very brave people that we are engaged with. So I don't think that the person working with loneliness, we have an offer for people over 65 in our community to have discussions or conversations with a person, psychological. But as you said, the old people don't think that loneliness is taboo. They would like to talk about it, and they would like to talk about what they can do together, not only have the elder counsel to give them some kind of advice. So I think we are into a very, I think the next thing we will do is to work on alcohol problems. Is that not true? So we will try to take some of the most, what we think is stigmatizing subjects to bring into discussions in local region and hope that more people will listen in and join. Well it's quite different in Radio Bazaar. We don't have so many men active, but we have a lot of ethnic minority women active from different nationalities. So why? I don't know. But we have women, not men. Just to inform you that when it comes to groups of women and men, there are a lot of community work with women. I mean, they're all book clubs, or women meet everywhere when men doesn't this is come on man is one of the the few things that we know and I would go there as well they're stuck in life right and they'd like to talk with each other about it and it works but thank you so very much.