Now we have like, we will have 40 more minutes in the session. I'm sure we are all a bit tired, but I wanted to give the stage to two people who signed up for the open mic. So there are more like quick announcements or reflections or things that you want to bring up to the group. And the first one is, if I'm correct, is somebody from Xpub? Is somebody here to present their workshop they are doing in the afternoon? No? Okay. Then I'll do it for them. Just a quick notice. Experimental Publishing is a study in Rotterdam at the Piazzuolo Institute, Rotterdam, within the Koning Academy. The study is in partnership with Amro since many years, and every year they send a few students to present their work. Probably they are now actually at Raumschiff setting up. Now I realize that time is running. So they present their work at Raumschiff, which is two minutes walking from here, and that's a performative installation that's called Turning Off the Internet. Somehow it's a topic we were discussing today. Maybe from the website it was announced you have to register to participate into this multi-layered performance and things. I think maybe this was scaring a bit the participants to join. I will just suggest if you, if you are interested, just drop by and see what they have for you. They have a very nice conversational piece, or more like one-to-one conversation, how their experience with the internet runs. It's very intimate and it's very nice, and they are very cute people. So consider joining. Thank you. This applause goes to them, not to me please. And yes, and then there was Simon who wanted to say something. So if you, for the rest, think, if you want to say something to the camera or to the group here. Otherwise, after Simon, we can just close the session and enjoy an earlier lunch break. Simon was together in the conversation yesterday of the Libre Graphic Meetings. He is based in Vienna and was also joining some of the events that we did last year, the Design Week. I'm doing an informal introduction so that we check the computer and the screen. And I believe he has something to announce. has something to announce. Simon is a developer and an open source enthusiast working in the field of graphic design and web development. And we are very curious to hear what you've got to say. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just going to keep it short because I think we're already enthusiastic for lunch. But a quick follow-up basically to the things that Luca was especially talking about. So being your own platform. And even I did a quick talk already at DH5, but it was without beamers, so I think it's without projectors. It makes more sense, I think, today with the visuals. So it's two projects I want to show. One is FairCamp, and this is basically following up to Luca's story about Bandcamp, which is in a sort of state of deterioration. And FairCamp is a project that I started about two or three years ago, and it allows you to basically put up your own Bandcamp like platform but completely self-hosted on your own server and sort of with the idea to push the technical requirements for that as low as possible. I'll quickly show that. So this is about how it looks. So you have basically album covers, you have the tracks, you can stream them, you can download them, you can share links, you have description texts and so on. It's pretty much like Bandcamp, but it's all statically generated, so there's no breakage point. It can really run forever as soon as you upload it and as long as you pay the bills. It just keeps on running. And just to quickly give you an idea of how this looks. So let's assume we are the FairyBot Orchestra as artists. And to have our website, basically we just need a folder. In the case of an artist, it's artist folder, but it can also be a label, so it's also made for labels. And in that folders, we just have other folders, which are the releases, so albums, singles, and so on. And in those, we have simply the music files and the covers. So this is likely already the format that you have lying around anyway. And then basically you just go into this folder which is called the catalog. And right now you have to do it in a terminal. It's also a goal that in the long run it should be a bit more accessible. But for now it is what it is. You run it through FairCamp and it basically goes through all these files, it's transcodes them to the formats that you need for online presentation. It also builds all the downloads and stuff if you ask for that. So there's also a way to configure this by leaving text files which contain structured data that instruct how the file should look and what it should contain and at the end of this basically you end up with this so a working site and you can go onto the album page and basically what is this laggy Wow, this is laggy. Play the music. Okay, so this is Faircamp and to not just only show my approach on this, there's also other things going on which are very interesting and also because just earlier we were talking about platform cooperatives and one of those is a Milo. They are right now having a Kickstarter also which you can support if you want and they built basically the same thing as Bandcamp but as a co-op platform. So owned by the artists, owned by the people that work on it. Very cool project. I'm also in contact with them to coordinate how we can do free and open source and ethical alternatives to Bandcamp and together and think also about intersections and stuff. In that same vein we also have a gem co-op doing exactly the same thing. They are also and we're all talking how we approach this so if you're interested in that follow along. And the last thing to conclude is something that is going to be better released in about two weeks and that's called the Hyper8 video system and it's basically the same thing which I just mentioned for music, so it's like Faircamp but it's for video, so basically you can have your own YouTube but on your own server and it's also statically generated so there's also nothing that can break, you just generate the site on your computer, then you upload it and then it runs forever as long as you pay the bills again. Or if you host it at home then you don't technically have to pay the bills, not those bills, your bills. And what is a major difference to FairCamp here, and this is also something that will probably go back to FairCamp eventually, is that you do not have only this terminal interface and all the data and text files, but you actually have a browser interface in which you can upload the files, in which you can request files to be transcoded to other formats, in which you can add post images and descriptions and so on and so forth. And where you also have, and you see that on the top right, buttons to deploy this thing. So basically there's a, I'll just maybe show this live. So I'm just going to start this on my computer. And basically in this interface I can configure where is this going to be hosted, what are the credentials to log in, and then at this point you can basically use a button here to deploy. So yeah, I think that's as much as I want to say on this. If you want, check it out, and thank you for your attention. Woo-hoo! APPLAUSE Thank you, Simon. I have only one question, maybe briefly, or a comment, because I remember it from a previous presentation you made of the FairCamp. This is, and I think this is the value, the interesting part, is that this does, like, purely do a FairCamp thing, or, like, having a way to simply promote and show and distribute your content in a way but then it strips away all the social whatever functionalities that these platforms started having over time so you basically have your site and your things but then you don't have like oh I'm curating my own playlist or like me on whatever and I think it's like as a comment like, oh, I'm curating my own playlist or like me on whatever. And I think it's like, as a comment, I think it's really nice to have this bare functionality. Also because maybe technically it makes much more sense to have multiple different platforms which have their own behavior and not try to connect everything because that's where also in generically problems arise. And then we have to put a lot of hot glue and gaffer tape to fix up stuff that don't meant to function. But also because it's kind of resonates with what Aymeric was saying yesterday, like the question of actually do we need to follow up on these technologies that we are constantly criticizing for being also extractive and mentally abusive in a way or creating dependencies. So I really like this more radical approach to say, okay, whatever, we just leave that part away because we know we don't need it so much or we can try to do it otherwise and then we stay with the actual core. More than a question was a comment. Yeah, thank you. you