Teacher Education Radio Austria, das Studierendenradio der Pädagogischen Hochschule Oberösterreich. Hallo bei Terra FM und PHTV. Heute wieder in einem Live-from-home-Setup. Ein bisschen improvisiert, weil wir wieder müssen. Wir dürfen nicht ins Studio und wir dürfen keine Gäste dort empfangen. Darum haben wir wieder ein Live-from-home-Setup aufgebaut. Wir haben zwei Studiogäste, ein dritter kommt vielleicht noch, aber der ist im Krankenhaus und vielleicht ist dort das Wi-Fi nicht gut genug, das könnte ein Grund sein. Wir warten da noch auf Joachim, ob er noch zu uns stoßen wird. Und wir haben vielleicht auch eine kleine Technik-Sache wegen des Live-from-Home-Setups. Alexander, du hast kein Headset, also man muss da vielleicht ein bisschen jetzt manchmal so ein Doppeldelay mitnehmen. Ich werde jetzt versuchen, ich habe gerade eine Nachricht bekommen, dass wir dich ein bisschen leiser stellen sollen. Wir werden das jetzt gleich einmal machen, dass wir dich ein bisschen leiser stellen, dass das weniger ein Problem ist. Vielleicht können wir die Zuhörer, die mir da jetzt dauernd Nachrichten schicken, vielleicht auch schicken, ob es jetzt passt. Schauen wir mal schnell. Ja, ich glaube, das schaut jetzt gut aus. Und wir müssen die Sprache wechseln, weil wir haben einen zweiten Gast und der zweite Gast ist Janne und Janne ist from Oulu in Finland. Hi Janne! So we switch to English now. But Janne, actually you were smiling, so I think we could probably do it in German. Is that...? I pick one word here, another word there, but certainly I cannot fluently participate very much in German. I'm sorry. Yeah, so we just continue in English and well thanks for joining me this afternoon. It's a program about the edit educational video challenge which has just started, which is a hackathon style video production event where students, mostly teacher training students produce educational videos in a very short time in a limited time in a little bit more than four days we have a timer running on the edit website I can show you this timer so I have to put that away now briefly. This is the radio stream, but now you can see that it's three days, eight hours, 55 minutes and 53 seconds left till submission deadline. Und ich habe gerade eine Nachricht von der TV-Station erhalten. Könntest du deine Lautsprecher auf deinem Computer aufsetzen? Könntest du die Lautsprecher auf deinem Computer so leise stellen, dass du uns gerade noch hörst, aber sie vom Mikrofon nicht mehr aufgenommen werden. Also auch die TV-Station, they realize that there is a little bit of a sound problem here. Weißt du, wie du das machst? Am Laptop die Lautsprecher ganz leise stellen, so den Laptop-Sound, so dass du uns gerade noch hörst, weil dann kriegen wir das weniger in das Mikrofon. Ja, this ist ein bisschen ein Herausforderung für alle. Ich meine, das Leben zu Hause und das Lockdown. Wir haben die Situation, außerhalb der Finns, weil sie sehr gut tun, so weit ich habe gelesen. Es ist also im Grunde keine Covid in Finnland mehr. Ist das wahr? Wenn man sich Nordfinnland anschaut, leben wir nicht in sehr dünnen Bereichen. Natürlich leben in Nordfinnland weniger Menschen, Well, I mean, if you look at northern Finland, we don't live in very dense areas, so of course there's less people living in northern Finland, but certainly Finland has always been really careful when it comes to things like this, and obviously we received most of the alarms early enough, so we had maybe a little bit more time to prepare for situations. Yeah, and we are, inria we always have a little bit the problem that we are between the north and the south so people are kind of already very emotional and it's very hard for austrians to keep distance it's a bit easier i think for finnish people but apart from the sauna i mean Yeah, so the educational video challenge is also in a completely different situation this year. It's mostly running online, at least in Austria. The students have to work in online cooperation. I cannot meet them at the university. They cannot use the university facilities and they are actually not even allowed to meet at home because it's very strictly restricted how people can meet in Austria just now so all of them kind of have to think of creative ideas of of dealing with the situation and I had received some some messages how should we do that and we cannot take part that way and then I said well we were in the jobs you will have in the jobs you have or will have teachers we always have to improvise and have to be flexible and so and after a while from all of them i got messages yes we're joining we're taking part uh i just get the message here and i i take this go to the meeting in the same time was this loss yeah okay yeah okay i thought it was concerning the broadcast but he just called me because of somebody else something else uh it was godfrey you know him, Janne. But I'd like to go a little bit back in the history, because it's Janne and me, when we met, when Janne was visiting Austria, how many years ago was it, Janne? 2012. Oh, you still remember. Okay. So 2012, Janne came to Linz together with some colleagues colleagues and we sat together in my that time office, I think, over coffee or whatever we had. And that's how it all started. Maybe you remember so well. Can you tell us? Well, I mean, it was actually it was my Erasmus teachers exchange. Erasmus teachers exchange. And I remember hearing some criticism around 2000, in late 2000, 2010, that quite often the Erasmus programs were like this teacher or educational tourism, that you just went to another country and nothing was actually built on the top of that experience. And, you know, I felt like, well, if you really hit it off with people you meet, if you meet like-minded people and you're interested in similar things, why not continue the cooperation? Because we actually, in Linz, I felt like it was really nice experience for a teacher, for myself. And certainly you, Christian, we got to know pretty well already in in that period of four or five days and I met your colleagues and everybody was really friendly and we certainly felt like like if it stays like this and we don't do nothing it feels really stupid so we found out that we share similar interests in in videos and creating videos for different purposes and felt like, well, this is certainly something that we can do together to organize similar course in different countries at the same time. And then my colleague Blair Stevenson was organizing this hackathon about the different idea the same year, actually the next year. And we realized that, wait a second, this video thing, that has to be the hackathon. And then after we did the first run with you, I think the next year we started taking new schools together and realized that this hackathon format is actually a really cool thing. And we thought, let's keep it going. We've always started from the ground up and we didn't have a grand huge plan but really we realized what we do within our schools and we realized that the same model can work with other universities as well so we started bringing in friends yeah it was mind I think Petra and her students from Mainz who came on in the second year already because I had I had had a little talk about the edit at the project run by Thomas Petersile it was kind of an international technical tools in education I think it was an intensive program and Erasmus intensive program and that's how how Petra came along. And we have, well, sometimes we have lots of partners. Sometimes we have less partners. This year it's five countries taking part in a COVID-19 edit, so to say. Yeah, it was surprising to hear that. Or let's say that we were super optimistic that edit can still run in this covid situation because it's been mostly online activities anyway and i can say from our behalf that it's not really different situation for us in northern finland we've been running online program for 10 years and i have been teaching online 80-90% of my teaching time anyway. It's just that online teaching and instruction and facilitation, it's been a good option. Now it's the only option. And it's a little bit frustrating that you cannot create these opportunities of people actually meeting face to face. And we feel that certain interaction and sense of community is missing. But nevertheless, making online videos in cooperation and using online tools, it's completely possible. It's just another way of facilitating learning experiences. way of facilitating learning experiences and I guess that is new for a lot of teachers that may cause you know new stress or something that they're not quite sure how to do it but we have always been happy to you know smile and fail and then redo it and learn from experiences so I think that's a healthy advice for any teacher or university that you are allowed to try new things even though they don't work perfectly the first time yeah and that's also with with media so nobody has to be afraid and scared we try our best but when something doesn't work it doesn't work i mean i was in a webinar recently by a very professional uh media company and they needed about 25 minutes till they till everything was running so and and they always had even problems in between by the way we have Joachim on board now hi Joachim can you hear us as well we can't hear you Joachim we cannot hear you can you yes we can hear you now hello so Joachim is also teacher and student. They both take part in a study program called Film and Radio Education in School. So you do it as a kind of further education thing because you're already working in schools. How is it for you? Well Joachim, are you actually participating in EDIT? Because you are in hospital just now, as I know. No, I'm not any longer in hospital. I'm back home now, sitting in my little hut and doing this correspondence. You're sitting in your hut in the mountains. So this is a little bit... Yes. Well, you, Jane, and Joachim, you have a little bit similar situation. Sitting in the remote places. Yeah, I just put a top five places where I've done webinar or video conference. And then last first edit meeting of this year, I was fishing on a lake so i was fishing at the same time on the lake and hosting webinar last year the first webinar of edit coordinators meeting i was in uh borneo i was in the middle of the jungle watching watching gorillas and for waiting for them to come i had a video conference with you guys i've had a video conference in sauna when i was building my house. So yeah, pretty much anywhere where you get the connection you can do video related stuff. Well, and that also worked for the real world. It's nice because when we were visiting Janne, we had a meeting sitting in his sauna. So the Finnish people obviously do that as well. Yeah, the music as usually the studio guests for TERRA FM provide the music, comes from you, Janne. You selected the music. I think when I start the music playlist it will be hard, crazy on... what was it? I can't i realized that my my taste is going backwards i'm not getting into any new music i'm just going backwards to 70s 60s 50s well that's a sign of the stuff i missed when i was young okay good well we hear a little bit of music now that gives you a little break of about two or three minutes but please stay on till we'll be back then live here and for the people on TV as usual the talk continues after the music guitar solo We may still have time, we might still get by Every time I think about it, I won't cry The bombs in the deep, the kids keep coming No way to breathe easy't no time to be young But I tell myself that I'm doing all right There's nothing left to do tonight Let's go crazy on you Crazy on you Let me go crazy, crazy on you The love is the evening breeze touching the skin The gentle sweet singing of leaves in the wind The whisper that calls After you in the night And kisses you here and there A little bit And you don't need to wonder You're doing fine My love, the pleasure's mine Let me go crazy on you Crazy on you Let me go crazy, crazy on you Wild man's world is crying in pain Whatcha gonna do when everybody's insane? So afraid of what you're so afraid of you What you gonna do? I'm crazy on you Crazy on you Let me go crazy, crazy on you I was a willow last night in a dream I've been down over a clear running stream And sang you the song that I heard up above And you kept me alive with your sweet flowing love Crazy, yeah Crazy on you Let me go crazy, crazy on you Crazy on you Crazy on you Crazy on you Let me go crazy, crazy on you Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Crazy on you, crazy on you. Let me go crazy, crazy on you. Oh. Tierra FM. Teacher Education Radio Austria. Das Studierendenradio der Pädagogischen Hochschule Oberösterreich. I just got the message from our PR that I should have shaved before the broadcast. I mean, this is a live from home broadcast. I mean, I could sit in my pajamas, you know, but I'm not sitting in my pajamas. I'm sitting in my fancy edit sweater here, which arrived just in time after traveling around Europe, going back to Finland and back again. Yeah, your shirt was doing promo work in Spain and Germany and all kinds of places where a delivery company took it. Yeah, so Jane maybe you can tell us a little bit what's the idea behind EDIT? Because you are a yeah well of course maybe this past half year has been the best example how videos have become a really vital tool in educational process whether as a teaching tool and as a learning tool but certainly if we go back 10 to 15 years we've realized that the use of videos has increased so much. YouTube is the second most used search engine after Google search page so people really are looking for information and advice how to do videos and lecture material, expert material in the format of video and of course now that we have the technical tools on mobile devices, cloud services, technically we are in the situation that most people can access these production tools pretty much anywhere. So why not use them for education? Because they are used anyway quite a lot. So from the point of view of teachers' competence and teaching skills, I think there's no way of escaping the fact that modern teachers, they need to be pretty well equipped and pretty well trained in digital tools and digital skills, and certainly video is one of them. And I think that video is also great because it incorporates the creative, the playful side. that video is also great because it incorporates the creative the playful side my my background is also in a drama education so the way to bring the theatrical elements the playful elements uh into digital world well the video is one of the most obvious answer to that so that you can play the fiction the storytelling and representation of a video of a drama or theatre into digital world by making videos. So certainly the visual storytelling and putting the education in the format of a story or video, I feel it's something that every educator should at least somehow be able to do. How do you see that, Alexandra and Jochi? How do you see this as students and teachers? Okay, Alexandra, yes actually. Yeah, I guess it's quite nice to have a teaching video for the group builds because we see that when they go on the internet watching your video, they're going to learn it another way. So the old fashioned learning method of the teacher is to stand in front and say something and the teacher is pretty back in the past. Do you have a microphone Jochi? Because I can hear you not very well. I don't know how is it about you guys? It's breaking up a little bit. It's breaking up a little bit, yeah, but that could be your internet connection as well. Yeah, it is really important. Actually the weather is not good anymore, so internet is bad. So internet comes and goes with the weather in your area? Yes, of course. Well, that's of course a challenge where Austria still has to do a lot. I mean, Finland has many remote areas, but I think concerning internet, you don't need to worry much. Is that true, Janne? Yeah, I mean, there are some areas where you would only have 3g network but 4g is pretty common everywhere all the way up to the northern lapland and now 5g is available in many many of the cities already and government has a goal that all the housed areas would have the wire connection but my house doesn't i i live in the countryside but still it's good enough for this sort of thing yeah there is a big difference to to austria i mean we we sometimes say that we are so far ahead concerning this but that's definitely not true there's a lot a lot to be done if you want to catch up with scandinavian countries in this i've heard actually that in norway uh no mobile phone company gets a contract if they don't agree to cover actually all remote areas as well and there are lots of remote areas in norway and you in finland you can't get a cell phone deal anymore without a network connection. I tried to get one for my kids without the network connection, but no, that's not available anymore. Every cell phone SIM card comes with network connection. Which is, of course, in this case, for the things we are doing, a very essential thing. for the things we are doing a very essential thing. Alexandra are you in a in a team are you working in a team for the edit? Yes we are four persons. And can you, it's probably secret, but can you tell us a little bit of what's going on? Can you tell us a little bit of what's going on? Can you tell us a little bit of what's going on? You probably have your loudspeaker very silent now, okay? So it's a bit difficult to speak. What are you doing? Can you tell us a little bit about your plans with the video? Yes, we are painting the film you do animation film is that right you idea is a little a little boy well if you want you can say it in German and I translate it for you you can say it in German Alexandra if you want Du kannst es in Deutsch sagen, Alexandra, wenn du willst. and girls and then the worthiness of the people that it comes out and then the wall breaks through and it is that humanity emerges. And that brings me to this thing that the edit always has some special thing because it starts at a certain time. It's a hackathon style event which means that it has a start date and an end date and it has a production time of about four days and to make sure that people don't start too early there have to be certain keywords in the films or the films have to be about certain keywords or they have to influence the film maybe you can say something about that jane well yeah i mean i i think quite a lot of these hackathons or these film events where you have to make a movie in a limited time, they often try to give some sort of common frame, whether it's a theme or whether it's something you have to use or whether it's something you have to include in the film. Since the first time we had the keywords, we felt like we don't want to limit anybody. But at the same time, we realized the students were often asking like where to start and to give some kind of limitation and even if we give something as little as three words it already gives you an idea where to start or it somehow triggers your imagination that where could we go or how could we use those words so it gets you going so it gives you a way to start planning for your script and your project and i guess we've always tried to keep them the keywords flexible in a way that they can be used in very versatile ways but i just yesterday with my students we looked back the keywords of the previous years and you can tell that somebody who's an educator planned those words because it's always been you can always see that the theme is somehow linked to education come on we've had reflect and we've we've had play and we've had things that are obviously part of teachers vocabulary and thought world yeah yeah and and what are this year's keywords i mean we can say them now can't we yeah video is public yeah yeah i don't remember which year it was but it's been a tradition for the past four years that we make the announcement video together in first couple of years it was just one year i was making a like 360 video which you had to look around and find the words in a room but then I guess it was in Mondragon when we met with our Romanian partner Marianne and then we had Nagore from Mondragon and Rebecca from Germany and you from Austria and Catriona from Scotland. We decided that we as a coordinators we should make the announcement video because to show that we also you know want to play the same game as what we asked from students. So yeah this year's announcement video we did that and my son helped us and the words that we ended up putting on the film were wall, force and values. I was actually asked if reality is also a keyword. Oh, that's right, because that was sort of the name of the film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it doesn't matter. There can be some reality in films as well. It's always better to have one more than one less. Yeah, actually, I really like that Mondagon keyword actually criticizing that we are running an international video in education. We are not able to make a proper keyword announcement video. Do you remember that? Yeah. I think Tim was his name. Thanks, Tim. Now we remember him forever yeah but but at the same time we've always felt like uh we don't want to set the bar very high we would rather put the bar like closer to the ground to help all the teachers realize that you don't need to become a professional filmmaker it's not like we're making a national broadcasting level videos here we are making something that should encourage all the teachers to use videos as a part of their everyday work as a teacher or to help their students in whatever level they will be teaching to help their students to create whatever kind of videos they can use in their studies so yeah of course we get technically very beautiful videos every now and then we always have a couple of teams who really get into editing and are really making beautiful stories and are good actors, directors, good editors, but we have never set the standard high from that technical point of view. We have always tried to say that the educational idea is much more important than the goal of having professional level technical qualities. That brings us to the judging there is an international jury with one jury member from each participating country or each participating university at least and they follow a jury a scoring sheet maybe you can say something to the scoring sheet then jane uh where they kind of do an online judging of the videos and in the end we usually have a best film award and a second best film and the third best film prize and we also do an audience award usually. So maybe you developed the scoring sheet Janne. Can you say a little bit about the scoring? Well, it's not a big invention, but nevertheless, because you can cooperate online quite easily these days. So we've had just a shared scoring sheet for all the jury members. So obviously, when we do the scoring a little bit different times, we can still use the same documents and same criteria in different different countries so we've sort of taken care of uh educating the jury members before the event that the jury members they need to understand the same assessment criteria as what we try to tell to students who are participating the edit so that's that's only fair that the jury is using the same criteria as what we ask from the participating teacher students. Yeah, so yeah, sorry, Jani. No, no. So yeah, it's been fairly simple, but good tool that people can do the same work in different locations and use the same spreadsheet and we can follow when they are done, when it's ready and they can write their comments in the same paper. So yeah, it's been quite simple but very handy process that these cloud tools enable us to do. Did you find it fair last year, Jochi? Because you are already participating the second time, isn't it? Yes, and we actually participate with the same team. Last year we were very proud about our movie and we were a little bit of some sort of not really, I don't know how to say it. I guess each university in the place there was a lot of charge. And because there were so many universities in Germany, I realized there are so many challenges. Yeah, that brings us to the organization of EDIT, because EDIT is a very low level... We don't have much hierarchy in EDIT, you know? We don't have much hierarchy in edit. It's a group of people who like educational videos and who like doing international projects together. But there is no boss of edit. So therefore there is no detailed regulation concept behind edit. But that's what kind of also makes it so sympathetic isn't it Janne? Yeah I mean yeah we've had jury members who are not from a world of education so obviously they end up looking at different things compared to what for example teacher trainer or research in the field of learning technologies would look at so that that's of course what we try to teach to teachers that they should first and foremost look at the educational aspects of any learning product. So whenever you do an assessment, you look at the quality of learning and quality of education. But then again, when we are putting things in a preferred order, there's no denying the fact that personal preferences exist. So people do like different things and people pick up different things. So that's also interesting to see that some things are more appealing to some people. And it's really hard to say that some jury members shouldn't like it as much, or maybe even content-wise some things feel more important to some people, or maybe that's also a cultural thing. But I remember that, for example, a couple of years ago we had to explain to jury members that educational video doesn't have to be a large target group, it doesn't even have to be a public product. It can be about person's own learning. It can be a documentation of my own learning process. And it's not meant for big audience and it's not meant for any children to be watched or anything like that. Just a matter of me reflecting my own learning and putting that sort of learning diary type of format into a video. And that can be an interesting product, but nevertheless it doesn't have a big meaning to a large audience. So it's always discussion with jury members, and part of that is the personal preferences. And like our Austrian jury member said, I think it was last year at the award ceremony, a different jury would come to a different result that's the case always if you want to know more about edit you can always go to the edit website www.editvideochallenge.org you find all information there you find the criteria there criteria there an explanation of how it works and you find a hall of fame where you can see all playlists from previous edits and have wonderful lockdown cinema evenings with wonderful educational videos so just go on www.editvideochallenge.org you will also of course see there this year's winners next week. The award ceremony will be on Wednesday, November 26th at 5 o'clock Central European Time. Is it Thursday? Yeah, it's Thursday. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's Thursday next week. So one week from today actually. At 5 o'clock Central European Time. 5 Uhr Mitteleuropäische Zeit. It will be streamed online. It will be published on Pädagogische Hochschule Oberösterreich website. How you can take part and join. And now I think it's time for a little music break again and I could actually satisfy PR and just run to the to the bathroom and shave half of the beard come back talking and with the next music I could shave the second half of the beard but maybe that's a stupid idea so I just keep the beard as it is a little bit of music again I think it's the nerves no it's love coming a song about love seven and seven what is it Yanev yeah that's the old 60s psychedelic rock classic love playing seven and seven ill is yeah one of my favorite songs ever enjoy love and we have you guys have a little break of some minutes again. I thought about the times I'd be a man I'd sit inside a bottle and pretend that I was in a can In my lonely room I'd set my mind in an ice cream cone You could throw me if you wanna But on my phone I go Boop-bip-bip, boop-bip-bip, yeah If I don't start crying it's because I have got no eyes My father's in the fireplace and my dog lies in the mud I'm tired Through a crack and fight I wasn't able to find my way My father's in the fireplace and my dog lies hypnotized Through a crack of light I wasn't able to find my way Trapped inside a mask but I'm a gay and I know Oop-bip-bip, oop-bip-bip, yeah! One, two, three, fourご視聴ありがとうございました Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020 Das Studierendenradio der Pädagogischen Hochschule Oberösterreich. some silent quiet calm boring singer-songwriter so yeah i'm happy so i hope you will be happy today yeah i'm adhd adult adhd always too nervous to go to the next thing yeah and finnish people i think like hard rock music do they yeah i think we are winners in the statistics of having the most metal bands per capital population or whatever. Well, we have another musician here with Jochi. Jochi is also playing the electric guitar, isn't it? playing the electric guitar, isn't it? We had actually a music video last year, but it didn't pass, unfortunately, the Nationals. That's right, yeah. And we've had a couple of times students have been composing and playing their own music as a soundtrack. It's happened a couple of times. That's actually Jochi's group, but obviously we lost him a little bit with audio or he's talking with somebody else, I don't know. Jochi, can you still hear us? Jochi, can you still hear us? Not really, maybe. Doesn't look like it. Jochi, can you still hear us? Hi! No, he cannot. Well, it's definitely his group. They also compose, because one of the students participating in that group is a very good composer he also composes like i saw once he it was even a piece performed by an orchestra oh so are you back yoji can you hear us yeah yeah can you hear me because i was yes we can uh i was just addressing you because you are in a group i think eric will compose the music again himself for for this year's edit film isn't it because yeah yeah yeah yeah of course yeah i'm not there i always mix them up yeah don't worry yeah he's going to compute the music for this this year yeah so imagine imagine uh well we could actually show but we have to play some music that they can bring it in we could show your film from from last year uh we could actually do that yeah yeah we could show it but then we have to play some music because I have to bring it into this live from home broadcasting tool I'm using here. I hope that it's kind of all right with sound mixing here because I have to do everything on my own. I have to talk, to listen and to do the sound mixing and everything here. Yeah, but Christian, you are a great guy. Is that satiric? No! Yeah, well, if I play a little bit more music, then I can bring your film from last year in that at least the people on TV can see a little bit about how those films are and the people on radio still hear the sound and there's I think there is no dialogue in your film they they can have it like music so I'll play a little bit of music now and then I bring in your film from last year how was it called Yuki yes It's called Burnout. You had the very bad, what's the word? Usually being the force is just, you know, not on the podium thing. I don't know what you call it. Yeah, it's the leather metal. Yeah, the leather metal. That's right. That's what you call it. Okay. Till I bring in the film, you will hear the nerves. the nerfs. Don't leave me hanging on the telephone I heard your mother now she's going out the door Did she go to work or just come to the store? All those things she said I told her to ignore Oh, how can we talk again? Oh, how can we talk again? Oh, how can we talk again? Oh, how can we talk again? Don't leave me hanging on the telephone Don't leave me hanging on the telephone It's good to hear your voice, you know it's been so long If I don't get your call then everything goes wrong I want to tell you something, you've gone on long Don't leave me hanging on the telephone I have to hear us start this conversation Your voice across the line cause me is strange sensation I got your talk but I can show you my affection Oh, I can't control myself Oh, I can't control myself Oh, I can't control myself Don't leave me hanging on the telephone Hang up and run at me So leave me hanging on the dead Let's go, hang up the moon and be Hang up the moon and be Hang up the moon and be Das Studierendenradio der Pädagogischen Hochschule Oberösterreich. the song wasn't long enough but you can watch it if you go on the edit website and in the Hall of Fame you will find all videos you will find the winning videos you will find the short jury shortlisted videos playlist and you will find all videos playlists yeah I think you can still find like really old videos if if the students if the makers haven't taken it down from YouTube, you can still find all the edit videos that have been ever uploaded to YouTube. So it's the best thing to do during lockdown. Don't watch the expensive streaming services go to www.editvideochallenge.org and watch the great edit videos from the previous years and soon the ones from this year which are just in production how many countries do we have this year uh five five so it's the netherlands it's romania it's Germany, Finland and Austria. Yeah and we in the I think two years ago it was 11 but this year some universities said it was just too complicated. Yeah and there's a lot of stuff happening at the same time. I have three conferences happening this week so even the media Learning, who has been supporting Edit Challenge in the past two years. Unfortunately, this year, we cannot promise the winning team that they get to go and present on Media and Learning Conference in Belgium. Media and Learning Conference is taking place right at the moment. It's online conference. And that was transferred from last spring to November and I had another conference that was taking place this thing so this week as well so I think people are also maybe a little bit tired that so much stuff is happening online and people are sitting in front of computers and facilitating things that are happening online so yeah I can totally understand that some university people are getting a little bit tired of trying to facilitate everything online it can be really big cognitive load if you have to reorganize everything in a way that it can fluently go uh on in online settings yeah that's probably uh and it's it's kind of even feel it, that I sometimes have the feeling I have to get away from this box, you know, out into nature or so. Yeah, this is most contact with people I've had today. So, I mean, thank you. Like it's sitting alone in home office and doing stuff on computer. That's being a teacher these days. Well, imagine we wouldn't have those facilities. I mean, all this lockdown stuff would be far more difficult. If I think back, like when I was in ARAS, when I was doing, I was on a language assistant program when I was, after I, no, before I actually, before teacher training. So that was in the 90s, kind of. So there was no... Well, there was internet, but it wasn't on a big scale thing. So it wasn't used by many people. There were just some freaks using it. And email was just in the beginning, but I hadn't heard about it. So my only contact was a payphone. I think it's really interesting after this year and next year that there are plenty of schools, teachers, big institutions that have gone into this online or hybrid model. And if and when we get back to, let's say, normal, do they all go back to the way it was? Or do they keep at least some of the online activities that work well like for example you can pretty easily have some of the video related activities as a part of your instruction and teaching in in any situation and they are still uh like a small group activities of making short films together it's really good learning for any kind of situation so i think it's really really interesting and hopefully the teachers let's say the teachers we have met over the years and teachers who are into making educational videos that they actually encourage everyone to keep on working even after the corona situation and to use those means that they have learned maybe in the past year or so and keep them as a part of their work in any situation well I'm quite sure that the world will be a different one afterwards at least the educational world and we all of us even people who hadn't done before had to get or have to get used to to using those online tools and that was an enormous boost yeah i mean it's before it it was some people who were using it and some people who were starting using them but now it's just a must and nobody can say I don't do it and I think teachers everywhere are accepting the fact that nobody's going to do it for you and teachers have realized that it's really up to you to get to learn to know the tools it's it's just not going to happen that somebody's going to do it for you it's it's it's a fact that every teacher have to learn it whether you have been working as a teacher for 30 years or three years, it's still really the teacher, him or herself, who has to learn how to utilize these tools in their own work. Yeah, now we'll see. We'll see what comes out of this. Definitely in the previous years in some courses I always I do some courses where I do a little bit of video but it's just a minor thing beside other things I'm I'm joining a colleague in a history course and in also in one course in sustainable development in primary teacher education and I always had to explain why video is useful in school. I had to give reason. I had to motivate. Well, this year it was the other way around. Students were saying, oh, had I known that two months before? Yeah, it's a funny thing that you have to find extra arguments why video is good for learning. Nobody ever asks that, well, is that boring lecture good for learning or is that book examination good for learning? They are so old traditions that everybody will automatically use them. But when you say that, okay, let's do online videos, there's right away somebody asking that, what good is this for learning? Yeah, it's strange. but I think that changed and there's probably not much positive we can find in the Covid crisis, but that might be in German there is a saying, at least in the in-viertel in Austria, we have this saying, certain was schlecht, wo nicht a was gut ist, that's probably hard to understand for you Jana it means kind of there isn't any bad weather isn't a little bit of good I mean usually we are very pessimistic in Austria generally but this is kind of a background very deep lying optimism we say that there's no bad weather there's just wrong clothing. That's right, that's a little bit the same. Alexandra and Jochi, I wish you good luck for the edit and maybe you will be among the winners and even if you are not, we follow the Olympic principle, participating is everything. I think that's what we do isn't it yeah you know yeah you can learn a lot working together making a video and it's uh it's fun and teamwork and and you can be very creative. So it doesn't matter if you win or not. I just have to look when the next Terra FM broadcast will be. It will be on Thursday the 3rd of December at the same time at 3 o'clock. There will be the next Terra FM broadcast. We will publish the topic it will be about some days before again another important day maybe on Tuesday next week at 5 o'clock there will be a digital info day for Pädagogische Hochschule Oberösterreich it will be published as well on the Pädagogische Hochschule Oberösterreich. It will be published as well on the Pädagogische Hochschule Oberösterreich website www.ph-oe.at digital infoday at 5 o'clock 5 till 7 I think where you can have in different rooms you can meet the people responsible for the different study programs and institutes if you are interested to become meet the people responsible for the different study programs and institutes if you are interested to become a teacher. Well guys, that was Terra FM about the EDIT educational video challenge. Thank you, Jane, for joining. Thank you, Alexandra. Thank you, Joachim. I wish you good luck, the students participating in EDIT and us as well Janne that we can have a wonderful challenge again with great educational videos we probably will meet several times again during this week and the latest at the awards ceremony I keep you updated awards ceremony will be on Thursday so one week from today until 26th of November at 5 o'clock broadcasted online with showing the jury shortlist and announcing the winners of EDIT 2020. Thank you very much for listening and hearing. The broadcast will be available for viewing after on DorfTV and Radio Froh aufgesehen. Wie immer Radio in etwa eine Stunde und TV morgen das Neueste. Danke, dass Sie mitgekommen sind.